Hey folks. I’m taking the day off. And my friend Howard Brown (CEO and Founder of ringDNA) is taking my place behind the mic. On this episode Howard talks with Mary Grothe (CEO at House of Revenue). This is our final episode in our series of conversations for #MentalHealthAwarenessMonth. While I may play a sales-psychologist on this podcast, Howard’s the real deal – a trained psychologist. In their conversation, Mary shares her sales and mental health journey. From her early successes and the demands she put on herself. To the expectations of other people that she felt pressured to live up to. And how she ended up in a very dark place.